I used about 9 feet of cord, 4.5 feet each of tan and black paracord, in the finished bracelet(9" long to comfortably fit an 8.5" wrist), adding a 5/8" curved/contoured side release buckle.
A similar chain sinnet type knotting pattern is seen at this link, a Chinese knot called the 'Big Phoenix Tail Sinnet'.
Some folks have said they have trouble with adding the knot work to a side release buckle, so here's a rough photo collage of starting and finishing with a side release buckle, once you're familiar with the knot work from TIAT's video.
I had been asked if this knot can be done with a single strand of paracord, and the answer is, 'almost'. You have to simulate a second pair of working strands, since the Genoese Zipper Sinnet has four working strands. To do this, I start with the the two strands and a zipper sinnet(chain sinnet), then to simulate the second pair of working ends, each cord will go down through the previous knot, then back up to make the sinnet, which creates the outer loop effect. It's not identical, but looks similar.
Stormdrane..that black comes out as blue to me in the pics.
ReplyDeleteThe sunlight coming in the window does give it a bluish tint. I tried editing the photo, but when it got 'darkened' to black, the black cords looked like a dark mass instead of being able to differentiate the strands.
ReplyDeleteI use Picasa to edit the photos, but the 7 year old laptop I use frequently shuts down without warning, especially when working with photos, for some unknown reason. I know the laptop's power socket is faulty, but I haven't been able to diagnose the photo problem, which has also randomly occurred when using Photobucket... Maybe a video card issue...
Cool! I think I'm gonna have to try this one soon.
ReplyDeleteNice job!
I like this design.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I always have (some) difficulties with the ends, when I try to finish them.
Is there a way to place (examples) on how to end these correctly? (or do they) ~ have a set standard which is common with all bracelets and watch bands?
Thanks in advance Sir.
With this type of knot, where there are multiple working strands after looping onto one end of a side release buckle, once you have the knotted length you want, the strands all go around the other buckle end, and the outer strands are knotted around all the other strands, at the end of the knotted length, with a single square knot/cobra stitch/Solomon bar/Portuguese sinnet knot.
ReplyDeleteAnd then the ends are tucked into the underside of the bracelet, trimmed, and melt the ends to finish. It can be a little thick at that end, but since it's right next to the buckle, it's not noticeable when wearing...
I don't recall if I've posted a couple of rough quick photos showing it done, but I've used the same process with other paracord bracelets where the knot work is from one end to the other, instead of around core strands between buckle ends...
Looks like the perfect knot for making bracelets using two different colors. Even after watching the video I am still a bit stumped on how to start and finish it with a buckle... Could you make one of your awesome photo montages?
ReplyDelete* Added a photo collage to the post for adding the side release buckle...
ReplyDeleteStormdrane ~
ReplyDeleteThank you for the photo collage on the construction of the ends. ^_^
Makes it easier now.
Respects!
Hey David,
ReplyDeleteI like the photo collages you've published on a few of your knots and I wouldn't mind seeing them on all your knots. Sure makes it easy to just print up a page and refer back to it as I go along instead of forwarding and reversing through videos to see what's going on. Seeing the video one time or two times is great but, when I get down to it, I like to have the collages.
Wearing my black and tan genoese zipper sinnet bracelet today.
Any idea where you can get the web buckles with the hidden handcuff key???
ReplyDelete@Jason, The buckles with the handcuff key are made by SEREPICK, not readily available to the public, but you can try contacting them to see if you can get one...
ReplyDeletewhere do you get your clips from?
ReplyDeleteThe side release buckles used for the bracelets, came from Creative Designworks. For the bracelets, I usually use 3/8", 1/2", and 5/8" sizes.
ReplyDeleteStormdrane, the last picture in the collage looks like a repeat of the first picture. I've built this, and have the final knot to hold it onto the buckle, but don't know what to do with the 4 strands after wards. The next to last picture using the forceps is difficult to see what you are doing.
ReplyDeleteI tried searching for videos on how to attach the buckles, but didn't find anything. Can you provide any help? Thanks!
After you've tied the last knot, take each of the four remaining strands, and work them under a few of the knots of the underside of the bracelet.
ReplyDeleteI use the hemostats to pull each of them under a couple of the underside knots, before trimming the ends off and quick melt the ends with a lighter, to prevent fraying. The finished ends can then be tucked under and out of sight.
That usually works fine as a finish, but you can further secure the ends with a little needle and thread, or a drop or two of super glue.
Thanks for the description. I will have to give it a try...do craft stores (like Hobby Lobby) carry the hemostats? I don't really want to place an online order for $5 just to get some.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like a lot of your bracelets have fairly flat ends where they attach to the buckle...hopefully mine will be similar. Looks like you may have left more "un-knotted" line before the entry into the buckle than I did, so it may make getting the ends into the knots easier. I may have to loosen mine up.
Your site is awesome, love seeing all the new things you find or come up with.
Some craft stores do carry hemostats/forceps, and they can also be found in fishing/tackle sections of sporting good stores, and Army/Navy surplus stores.
ReplyDeleteI've found that the smaller/thinner tipped the ends of the hemostats/forceps, the better. Larger tips are harder to work under previously tightened knots, to pull cord under.
You can find some on ebay for $2 or $3 shipped, which is probably less than the cost of gas going to and from a store. ;)
Love your designs, thank you. On this photo collage, and after tying to the buckle, it is difficult (for me) to determine exactly the position of each cord, due to their close proximity and dark color. Zooming in does not help. Any chance of greater separation of the cords to determine exactly where they go. Thanks
ReplyDeleteknot is hella cool looking but im sorry your picture is freaking horrible you cant make out anything which makes it VERY hard to even get this knot started
ReplyDelete@cibbis, You can always use the video tutorial by TIAT to learn the knot, and any photos posted can be enlarged/reduced in size, by using the CTRL and +/- keys on your keyboard.
ReplyDeleteJust wanted to say thank you for such an inspirational blog. I check in from time to time to ogle the gadgets and the beautiful knot work. Your paracord tutorials and pictures totally saved an otherwise rainy and drab Sunday. I went on a braiding spree and produced like 10 to 12 very bright, colorful paracord bracelets trying different knots and methods. So much fun :-)
ReplyDeleteHere's some of what I did today:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24487248@N00/5994978732/
I just tried this tonight, but without the buckle. It came out a bit uneven, especially at the loop, but for a first try it wasn't too bad.
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Just wrapped up a para-bracelet (common) tut you did on another site.
ReplyDeleteThank you!
I did modify the ends to wrap back through the buckle and outer weave before melting.. needless to say, seamless!
This is my next project, between the photos and the descriptions you've placed in the comments (hint to those that don't know how to finish), should be a breeze.
*tips hat to you - much appreciated
Which size buckles are those? I use 3/8" buckles, and they are wayyyy to small to make two knots on. Do you have any tips for a small buckle?
ReplyDelete@fragite, I used 5/8" side release buckles for this type paracord bracelet.
ReplyDeleteWith a 3/8" buckle, you can try just running the two different strands to their center points, side by side, and then knotting, but you still have four working ends when you reach the other buckle end, so you have to figure out a work around on that end. It's probably doable, but I just haven't used the smaller buckles for for these type bracelets...
@Fragite
ReplyDeleteI use 1/2" buckles for all bracelets I make. I get mine from my local Army Surplus but like Stormdrane said you can find them at http://www.cdwplus.com/singleSRB.html
The 1/2" has just enough room to squeeze 4 strands of 550 cord through it. It's tight but if you use hemostats to squeeze 2 and 3 strands to one side it works fine.
I like the 1/2" with the 2 slots on one end. Seems to allow for some extra options.
Is there somewhere that has a better photo's with the steps? I'm a newbie and I'm having a hard time following
ReplyDelete@TK, You can try searching through the Knothing But Tutorials Facebook group...
ReplyDeleteFinally a way to put this knot on a side release buckle, thank you, thank you, thank you....=)
ReplyDeleteI plan on making this a watchband. DO you know how I could hook the watch buckle to the band?
ReplyDeleteYou would attach the buckle the same way one half of the side release buckles are attached. But, you will probably need to gut the paracord(remove the inner strands) if you want to use it like an adjustable ban, since the pattern may be too thick to fit a regular watch buckle/pin with ungutted paracord. It doesn't hurt to try it one way then the other though... ;)
ReplyDeleteПожалуйста, оставьте ссылку на то, как закончить браслет. Он получается просто громадный.
ReplyDeleteФотоколлаж в блоге показывает отделки браслет с оберточной шнуры вокруг пряжки и связывая квадратных узлов. ;)
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