Friday, September 24, 2010

Genoese Zipper Sinnet Paracord Bracelet...

The Genoese Zipper Sinnet is a fusion knot by JD of TIAT(TyingItAllTogether), combining the Single Genoese Bar and the Zipper Sinnet.

I used about 9 feet of cord, 4.5 feet each of tan and black paracord, in the finished bracelet(9" long to comfortably fit an 8.5" wrist), adding a 5/8" curved/contoured side release buckle.

A similar chain sinnet type knotting pattern is seen at this link, a Chinese knot called the 'Big Phoenix Tail Sinnet'.

Some folks have said they have trouble with adding the knot work to a side release buckle, so here's a rough photo collage of starting and finishing with a side release buckle, once you're familiar with the knot work from TIAT's video.

I had been asked if this knot can be done with a single strand of paracord, and the answer is, 'almost'. You have to simulate a second pair of working strands, since the Genoese Zipper Sinnet has four working strands. To do this, I start with the the two strands and a zipper sinnet(chain sinnet), then to simulate the second pair of working ends, each cord will go down through the previous knot, then back up to make the sinnet, which creates the outer loop effect. It's not identical, but looks similar.

28 comments:

Da Curly Wolf said...

Stormdrane..that black comes out as blue to me in the pics.

Stormdrane said...

The sunlight coming in the window does give it a bluish tint. I tried editing the photo, but when it got 'darkened' to black, the black cords looked like a dark mass instead of being able to differentiate the strands.

I use Picasa to edit the photos, but the 7 year old laptop I use frequently shuts down without warning, especially when working with photos, for some unknown reason. I know the laptop's power socket is faulty, but I haven't been able to diagnose the photo problem, which has also randomly occurred when using Photobucket... Maybe a video card issue...

Jill said...

Cool! I think I'm gonna have to try this one soon.

Nice job!

Deth said...

I like this design.

However, I always have (some) difficulties with the ends, when I try to finish them.

Is there a way to place (examples) on how to end these correctly? (or do they) ~ have a set standard which is common with all bracelets and watch bands?

Thanks in advance Sir.

Stormdrane said...

With this type of knot, where there are multiple working strands after looping onto one end of a side release buckle, once you have the knotted length you want, the strands all go around the other buckle end, and the outer strands are knotted around all the other strands, at the end of the knotted length, with a single square knot/cobra stitch/Solomon bar/Portuguese sinnet knot.

And then the ends are tucked into the underside of the bracelet, trimmed, and melt the ends to finish. It can be a little thick at that end, but since it's right next to the buckle, it's not noticeable when wearing...

I don't recall if I've posted a couple of rough quick photos showing it done, but I've used the same process with other paracord bracelets where the knot work is from one end to the other, instead of around core strands between buckle ends...

Anonymous said...

Looks like the perfect knot for making bracelets using two different colors. Even after watching the video I am still a bit stumped on how to start and finish it with a buckle... Could you make one of your awesome photo montages?

Stormdrane said...

* Added a photo collage to the post for adding the side release buckle...

Deth said...

Stormdrane ~

Thank you for the photo collage on the construction of the ends. ^_^

Makes it easier now.

Respects!

Grumpy Grizzly said...

Hey David,

I like the photo collages you've published on a few of your knots and I wouldn't mind seeing them on all your knots. Sure makes it easy to just print up a page and refer back to it as I go along instead of forwarding and reversing through videos to see what's going on. Seeing the video one time or two times is great but, when I get down to it, I like to have the collages.

Wearing my black and tan genoese zipper sinnet bracelet today.

Jason Welin said...

Any idea where you can get the web buckles with the hidden handcuff key???

Stormdrane said...

@Jason, The buckles with the handcuff key are made by SEREPICK, not readily available to the public, but you can try contacting them to see if you can get one...

alexanderchang said...

where do you get your clips from?

Stormdrane said...

The side release buckles used for the bracelets, came from Creative Designworks. For the bracelets, I usually use 3/8", 1/2", and 5/8" sizes.

Jason said...

Stormdrane, the last picture in the collage looks like a repeat of the first picture. I've built this, and have the final knot to hold it onto the buckle, but don't know what to do with the 4 strands after wards. The next to last picture using the forceps is difficult to see what you are doing.

I tried searching for videos on how to attach the buckles, but didn't find anything. Can you provide any help? Thanks!

Stormdrane said...

After you've tied the last knot, take each of the four remaining strands, and work them under a few of the knots of the underside of the bracelet.

I use the hemostats to pull each of them under a couple of the underside knots, before trimming the ends off and quick melt the ends with a lighter, to prevent fraying. The finished ends can then be tucked under and out of sight.

That usually works fine as a finish, but you can further secure the ends with a little needle and thread, or a drop or two of super glue.

Jason said...

Thanks for the description. I will have to give it a try...do craft stores (like Hobby Lobby) carry the hemostats? I don't really want to place an online order for $5 just to get some.

It looks like a lot of your bracelets have fairly flat ends where they attach to the buckle...hopefully mine will be similar. Looks like you may have left more "un-knotted" line before the entry into the buckle than I did, so it may make getting the ends into the knots easier. I may have to loosen mine up.

Your site is awesome, love seeing all the new things you find or come up with.

Stormdrane said...

Some craft stores do carry hemostats/forceps, and they can also be found in fishing/tackle sections of sporting good stores, and Army/Navy surplus stores.

I've found that the smaller/thinner tipped the ends of the hemostats/forceps, the better. Larger tips are harder to work under previously tightened knots, to pull cord under.

You can find some on ebay for $2 or $3 shipped, which is probably less than the cost of gas going to and from a store. ;)

Anonymous said...

Love your designs, thank you. On this photo collage, and after tying to the buckle, it is difficult (for me) to determine exactly the position of each cord, due to their close proximity and dark color. Zooming in does not help. Any chance of greater separation of the cords to determine exactly where they go. Thanks

cibbis said...

knot is hella cool looking but im sorry your picture is freaking horrible you cant make out anything which makes it VERY hard to even get this knot started

Stormdrane said...

@cibbis, You can always use the video tutorial by TIAT to learn the knot, and any photos posted can be enlarged/reduced in size, by using the CTRL and +/- keys on your keyboard.

Susan G. said...

Just wanted to say thank you for such an inspirational blog. I check in from time to time to ogle the gadgets and the beautiful knot work. Your paracord tutorials and pictures totally saved an otherwise rainy and drab Sunday. I went on a braiding spree and produced like 10 to 12 very bright, colorful paracord bracelets trying different knots and methods. So much fun :-)

Here's some of what I did today:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24487248@N00/5994978732/

Nick said...

I just tried this tonight, but without the buckle. It came out a bit uneven, especially at the loop, but for a first try it wasn't too bad.
Picture

Sundevildaddy said...

Just wrapped up a para-bracelet (common) tut you did on another site.
Thank you!
I did modify the ends to wrap back through the buckle and outer weave before melting.. needless to say, seamless!
This is my next project, between the photos and the descriptions you've placed in the comments (hint to those that don't know how to finish), should be a breeze.
*tips hat to you - much appreciated

fragite said...

Which size buckles are those? I use 3/8" buckles, and they are wayyyy to small to make two knots on. Do you have any tips for a small buckle?

Stormdrane said...

@fragite, I used 5/8" side release buckles for this type paracord bracelet.

With a 3/8" buckle, you can try just running the two different strands to their center points, side by side, and then knotting, but you still have four working ends when you reach the other buckle end, so you have to figure out a work around on that end. It's probably doable, but I just haven't used the smaller buckles for for these type bracelets...

cwbyzfn69 said...

@Fragite
I use 1/2" buckles for all bracelets I make. I get mine from my local Army Surplus but like Stormdrane said you can find them at http://www.cdwplus.com/singleSRB.html
The 1/2" has just enough room to squeeze 4 strands of 550 cord through it. It's tight but if you use hemostats to squeeze 2 and 3 strands to one side it works fine.
I like the 1/2" with the 2 slots on one end. Seems to allow for some extra options.

TK said...

Is there somewhere that has a better photo's with the steps? I'm a newbie and I'm having a hard time following

Stormdrane said...

@TK, You can try searching through the Knothing But Tutorials Facebook group...